After the death
of my paternal
grandmother I
began to have
nightmares with
her. I told the
story to a
friend of mine,
a Spiritist, who
explained how
the
communications
between
incarnates and
discarnates
worked. That
raised my
curisioty. I
asked for
reading material
and she
recommended
The Spirits’
Book. I
began reading at
the end of a day
and only stopped
in the morning
of the following
day. And I never
felt like
sleeping. I took
the book with me
to work (on duty
in an accident
and emergency
unit at
hospital) the
next day. I
often say that I
didn’t “become”
a Spiritist that
day, but I
“found out” that
I was a
Spiritist.
What aspect of
Spiritism
strikes you the
most?
The rationality,
the logical,
organized and
crystal clear
approach that
Allan Kardec
used to deal
with such
difficult and
complex issues,
leaving,
however, room
for the
development of
the ideas. He
laid a very
solid base that
was ready to
receive new
scientific
knowledge as it
is produced.
How did you get
involved in the
AME?
After I read
The Spirits’
Book my
friend invited
to join
AME-Baixada
Santista, where
I lived for 22
years. I started
attending
meetings at an
AME even before
joining a local
Spiritist
Centre.
How is the AME
movement in
Brazil? What has
been the impact
of that work?
There are more
than 64 AMEs
across Brazil
and new groups
are formed every
day. We have
strong, dynamic
departments
working in
Brazil and
abroad, with
many
publications in
prestigious
magazines and
books. AMEs also
work in
universities,
helping organize
post-graduation
courses and
optional
subjects. In the
Spiritist
Movement, we
have tried to
help develop and
disseminate the
scientific
aspects of the
Teachings,
without
neglecting its
moral aspect,
taking the
Spiritist Centre
to the
university and
the university
to the Spiritist
Centre.
What are the
main challenges
you have faced?
Many doctors
reject Spiritism,
while many
Spiritist
doctors are
still worried
that we are an
elitist
movement. But
the late Dr
Marlene Nobre,
who led our
movement and
created the AMEs
with the
guidance of the
great Spiritual
Benefactor Dr
Bezerra de
Menezes, always
reminded us that
the AMEs were
not a mass
movement. She
told us not to
be too worried
about the number
of doctors
joining the
movement and,
instead, work
hard to rebuild
the bridge
between science
and
spirituality.
Is there
anything from
your experience
as a doctor and
a Spiritist that
you would like
to share with
us?
What I found
most remarkable
after all these
years was how
open the
Europeans and
North Americans
were to what we
had to say. That
openness has led
to a number of
important
partnerships in
scientific
research and has
drawn the
attention to
Spiritism
outside Brazil.
Since 2003, when
I began taking
part in Medical
Spiritist events
in Europe and
the US with Dr
Marlene Nobre
(who passed away
in January 2015)
I have witnessed
the growing
interest in the
Teachings. And I
have seen how
grateful they
feel, and
especially the
Europeans, when
we provide them
with the
possibility of
re-establishing
their links with
God through
science, which
fits in with
their rational
way of thinking.
I remember
clearly the
first congress
we had in
London, with the
help of BUSS
(British Union
of Spiritist
Societies). When
I was about to
begin my first
talk before a
packed hall, I
noticed that the
vast majority of
those present
put on their
headphones so
they could hear
the translator.
Then I thought:
“My God, we are
speaking indeed
for the
Europeans, not
only for the
Brazilians who
live in Europe”.
That experience
was very
important
experience to
me.
Is there
anything else
you would like
to add?
I would like to
highlight the
importance that
the work of
Chico Xavier,
dictated by the
Spirits, André
Luiz and
Emmanuel, has
for all of us in
the AMEs. Those
books have been
true compasses
guiding our way
as we attempt to
develop science
under the
spiritualist
paradigm. The
books written by
Divaldo Franco
have also been
very important.
The work of
Joanna de
Ângelis, his
mentor, has
played a very
important role
in the work of
psychologists
and
psychiatrists
who work to make
progress in the
treatment of
mental health
issues.
What are your
final thoughts?
My final words
go for our
beloved Dr
Marlene Nobre,
who accepted and
carried out
relentlessly the
task of setting
up on Earth the
AMEs. She began
with AME-São
Paulo in 1968
and later
developed the
regional AMEs,
before founding
AME-Brasil and
AME-International.
She deserves our
gratitude for
the opportunity
she has given me
to work,
enabling me to
review the
mistakes of the
past and help
rebuild the
much-needed link
between science
and
spirituality.