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Marlene Saes (photo)
is the founder
and one of the
directors of the
Spiritist Centre
A Caminho da
Luz (Pathway to
Enlightenment),
in Brazil’s
largest city,
São Paulo. The
Spiritist Centre
carries out a
huge and
important
programme of
activities, from
helping the poor
with food,
education and
clothing to a
profound study
of Spiritism and
the
dissemination of
the teachings.
Marlene Saes, a
mother,
grandmother and
a worker for the
cause of Jesus,
has written in
trance the book,
Insensatos
Corações. In
this interview
she shares her
thoughts on life
and the work at
her Spiritist
Centre:
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I’ll start by
asking to talk
about you: who
is Marlene
Saes? |
I’m one of the
founders and
leaders at the
Spiritist Centre
A Caminho da
Luz, which
opened its doors
36 years ago.
I’m in charge of
the aid and
charity efforts
of our group,
looking after 15
nurseries, 6
hostels for
children and
teenagers, one
home for the
elderly, an
apprenticeship
unit and other
activities. We
attend some
4,000 people
every day. We
also work on the
dissemination of
the Spiritist
Teachings. For
the last five
years we have
broadcast a
weekly
programme, which
goes on air on
the Spiritist
Radio Network,
Boa Nova, on
Wednesdays at
13h00. You can
listen online
online on
www.radioboanova.com.br.
I also have a
busy family
life. I’m the
mother of four
children and
have four
grandchildren.
But it’s in the
family life that
I recharge my
batteries for my
work as a
Spiritist
volunteer, which
makes me so
happy.
How do you
balance your
work with
Spiritism with
your family
life?
It is indeed a
busy life, but
my family is
used to that and
we do everything
with lots of
love. Every
aspect of our
lives is well
organised and
planned. My
children grew up
in this rhythm
of life and they
all work with
us. My husband
is also in the
board of
directors of the
Spiritist Centre
and has been
part of this for
the last 36
years. True, my
life as a mother
of small
children wasn’t
easy, it was
truly hectic:
taking the
children to
school, to see
doctors, to
swimming lessons
etc. like all
parents do. And
I still needed
to find the time
to carry out my
duties at the
Spiritist
Centre. But our
Spiritual
Benefactors give
us the energy,
the good health,
the strength
once we decide
to dedicate our
lives to such
projects, and
everything falls
into place in
the end.
We know that the
Spiritual Guide
of your
Spiritist Centre
is Luizinho. Can
you tell us a
bit about him?
Luisinho
disincarnated
when he was only
7 years and
eight months
old, on January
20th
1972. He lived a
very brief life
in the flesh.
He’d come back
to live the
remaining years
of an
incarnation cut
short by him in
the XIV century.
As he explained
to us, his main
task in this
short
incarnation was
to gather a
group of people
who needed to
fulfil their
commitments to
charity and
mediumship. I
had the honour
of sharing part
of my life with
this remarkable
spirit as his
aunt. And from
his very first
days I was aware
of the greatness
of that very
special human
being. He
returned to us
not long after
passing away to
guide us on the
work we were
supposed to do.
As the Spiritual
Guide of our
Centre, he
outlined the
programme of
activities for
the
dissemination of
Spiritism, the
training of
mediums, the
support of those
in need of
spiritual
assistance,
healing,
messages to be
written in
trance by the
mediums etc.
Luizinho is our
guide, our
bigger and
greatest
brother, who is
relentless in
his support and
guidance to the
whole family of
A Caminho da
Luz.
To help so many
people you need
the money, the
resources. How
do you deal with
that aspect of
the management
of the Spiritist
Centre? How do
you raise funds?
Do you have many
donors?
From when we
started our
work, 36 years
ago, we’ve tried
to find many
ways of raising
funds. We
provide poor
families with
some staple food
on a regular
basis, and that
obviously costs
money. In the
beginning, we
had volunteers
who ran courses
on painting and
arts and crafts.
Eventually, the
word spread and
there was a big
demand for our
courses. We
could then
charge for the
lessons and
raise some money
that way. We’ve
always held
events like
charity lunches
to raise funds,
to pay the rent
and carry out
our aid and
charity work. As
more and more
people began to
come regularly
to us, we felt
the need to
expand. We
raised the money
to buy our own
space. But it
has been a long
journey, with
many challenges.
We accept
donations from
anyone who is
willing to help
us, bearing in
mind that some
6,500 people
come to our
building every
week and that
our charity work
benefits more
than 4,000
people on a
daily basis. We
do need the
resources to
carry on. The
phone number to
contact us is +
55 11 20208888
or + 55 11
29650317.
Your home for
the elderly,
named Nosso
Lar (Our Home)
after a famous
Spiritist novel,
looks after 100
people. What
have you learned
from that
experience with
the elderly?
It’s a very
rewarding
experience to
have the company
of our elderly
brothers, who
practically put
their lives in
our hands. A
powerful feeling
of love grows
among all of us
and we end up
forming a big
family. And like
in every other
family, there
are big issues
and concerns. We
put a lot of
resources into
the home, which
is very costly.
Most of them
suffer from
hypertension and
diabetes and
require a great
deal of
medication as
well as a
balanced diet.
We also have a
physiotherapy
room for the
elderly, many of
whom live with
the impairments
caused by
strokes or
simply physical
decay. Working
with the elderly
is a very
emotional job,
as they all have
remarkable life
stories. They
get attached to
us as we to
them. When one
of them
disincarnates we
all in this new
family feel the
pain of grief.
Working with
children is
planning the
future; working
with the elderly
is living every
single day.
Tell us a bit
about the book
you’ve written
recently through
your mediumship,
Insensatos
Corações.
For quite some
time our
Spiritual Guide,
Luizinho, has
been making the
point that we
must begin
writing,
especially works
that will bring
some
enlightenment on
issues such as
our life as
incarnates and
our day-to-day
challenges. In
the end of 2010,
I decided to
allocate
particular days
and hours for
three months to
write the book.
I made myself
available to the
Spiritual World
and the book
Insensatos
Corações was
dictated to me.
It’s the story a
group of spirits
who’d been
together for
many centuries
and constructed
a history of
errors, crimes
and vengeance.
They were then
given another
opportunity by
Our Lord to
rescue
themselves from
their past of
mistakes through
mutual
forgiveness,
reaching real
peace in their
hearts. The
copyright has
been donated
entirely to the
home for the
elderly Nosso
Lar.
How does your
mediumship
manifest?
Mediumship is a
very gratifying
experience. As a
semiconscious
medium, I feel
clearly the
physical changes
as soon as I
make the
connection with
the spirit who’s
there to send
his message. My
heart starts to
beat faster. You
also feel all
the emotions
from the spirit;
you feel what
he’s feeling.
And I get so
much
satisfaction out
of that work, as
the link, the
connection
established
between the
medium and the
spirit goes
beyond anything
we know.
What are your
final thoughts?
I thank you
greatly for the
opportunity to
talk about the
work we do, with
so much love and
dedication. As
anyone who is
learning the
teachings of the
Gospel we are
invited on a
daily basis to
put into
practice the
lessons of
charity. And we
look for the
strength to carry
on in our Master
Jesus. I invite
you to visit our
website,
www.centrocaminhodaluz.com.br.
Our lectures and
speeches at our
open meetings
are broadcast
live on the site
every Monday at
19h00 Brazilian
time. For those
who want to know
more
specifically
about our aid
and charity
work, I
recommend
visiting our
other website,
www.capsnossolar.org.br.
I finish by
saying
that every day
we serve Jesus
we feel his
gentle breeze
embracing our
souls. And all
of those who are
willing to join
the path of Good
could certainly
come to feel the
same way. Let us
do today all the
good we can and
our lives will
be always geared
towards great
and enlightened
goals. Peace be
with you.