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Interview Portuguese Spanish    
Year 10 - N° 503 - February 12, 2017
ORSON PETER CARRARA
orsonpeter92@gmail.com
Matão, SP (Brasil)
 
Translation
Leonardo Rocha - l.rocha1989@gmail.com

 
Cândida Flávia de Oliveira Barbosa: 

“In order to help others, Elias even forgot about himself” 

The widow of Elias Barbosa, with whom she was married for 47 years, speaks about the personality and the work of the late Spiritist worker and his friendship with Chico Xavier

Cândida Flávia de Oliveira Barbosa (photo), born in the Brazilian town of Sacramento, has lived in the neighbouring city of Uberaba since 1956. A retired teacher, she was born in a Spiritist Family and is the widow of Dr Elias Barbosa (a General Practitioner and Psychiatrist) with whom she got married in 1964. They had five children and he re-

turned to Spirit in 2011. He was a very well known Spiritist author, speaker and was very close to the Brazilian medium, Chico Xavier. 


What was the most noticeable aspect of the personality of Dr Elias, based on all those years you lived together? 

Total dedication to his family. He was humble when treating patients and people in general. The Gospel shows that to progress spiritually we need to have two wings: knowledge and love, and Elias had both. He studied and researched Spiritism and disseminated with precision the teachings from the Gospel. 

What is your best memory of the family life with him, at your side and with your children? 

The chats and walks he had with the children when he took them to school or when we travelled. He always alerted them to the importance of nature, highlighting the role played by the birds and the trees. Elias was always available to for the family’s entertainment and education. 

From his experience in the dissemination of Spiritism, what would you like to highlight? 

He always ready and available to attend the invitations to speak for free at Spiritist meetings, talks, lectures, debates or chats. 

How many books did he organise and publish? 

He collaborated with the medium, Chico Xavier, as an author in 12 books. He wrote prefaces for the books of many other authors and created and kept the literary section of Anuário Espírita from 1964 to 2011. He published reviews on many publications, especially the complete works of Allan Kardec, including the 12 volumes of the Spiritist Review. 

How about your friendship with Chico Xavier? What is your most remarkable memory of those days? 

I remember particularly the meetings we had with Chico Xavier on Tuesdays in our house. He not only carried out his work on Spiritist books with Elias, but also taught me how to make jelly, which I didn’t know, Syrian white cheese, cream and other dishes. Chico was very important for us, and he still is. 

What would you like to highlight from your and your husband’s experiences in Spiritism? 

I would like to highlight the innumerable talks and lectures, which I always attended, when Elias enchanted the public with his broad knowledge, inserting here and there his light, refined sense of humour. 

When did he return to Spirit? How did the physical separation impact on you, taking into account your knowledge of Spiritism? 

He returned to the Spirit World on March 31st 2011. Even though I miss him a lot, I know that he still next to us. It is just a temporary separation. 

What did your husband most admire about Chico Xavier? 

He described his profound admiration for Chico Xavier’s humility. Even though he was such a high, developed Spirit, he considered himself a mere “speck”.  

Is there anything else that you like to share with our readers? 

My first meeting with Elias, on November 1st 1955 at Allan Kardec School in Sacramento, in a ceremony organised by the local Spiritist community to commemorate the death of Eurípedes Barsanulfo. 

Your final thoughts, please. 

I would like to express my gratitude for everything that he taught me and for the frequent examples of dignity, for being always near his family, for his sense of responsibility, professionalism, his honesty and honour and, most of all, I highlight his altruism, as in order to help others, Elias even forgot about himself. 

 


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