Graça Carneiro
Leão Maciel:
“The distortions
we are finding
in the doctrine
come from
lack of in-depth
study”
Graça’s
experience with
spiritist
institution in
Recife indicate
the most common
cause of
difficulties
within Spiritist
views
is the lack of
in-depth study
of Spiritism
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Graça Carneiro
Leão Maciel
(picture) is
our week’s
interviewee. She
is part of the
group Grupo
Espírita Allan
Kardec, from
Recife (PE,
Brazil). She has
been spiritist
since 1989, even
though her
knowledge in
regards to
spiritist
started around
her teenage
years. She
offers in this
interview her
view in terms of
her experience
within Spiritism.
She makes us
realise, once
more, that
kindness and
good are born
within us.
O Consolador:
Can you please
tell us about
what you have
been observing
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in the spiritist
movement in your
city? |
Unfortunately, I
have seen some
spiritist
centres and
spiritist
leaders lacking
consistency in
regards to the
spiritist
doctrine. The
doctrine is very
clear and simple
in its essence.
Therefore, it is
still not well
understood by
the spiritist
themselves. We
are not talking
about colleagues
who are
ignorant,
culturally
speaking. We are
talking about
those who preach
the doctrine but
do not follow
it. Spiritism is
for everyone and
not just for a
minority who is
actually looking
after their own
interest. Pride
and vanity
damage the
spiritist
movement.
Therefore, the
Doctrine
continues to be
what it is, and
lead us to great
opportunities of
growth and
development in
different areas
of our personal
and social life
in society.
Let’s live
Spiritism,
making it easier
for the
unification of
its principles.
Let’s work for a
more just
society, where
we look at each
other as
brothers and
sisters.
O Consolador:
What is the most
significant
spiritist event
in your State?
We have several
important
events, and one
of them is
Forespe
(Forum of
Spiritist
Debates in
Pernambuco) and
Mostra
Espírita.
O Consolador:
Which
institution are
you linked to?
I am linked to
Grupo
Espírita Allan
Kardec (GEAK),
since we created
it together with
friends in 2005.
Our objective
was to disclose
Spiritism
through talks
and the study of
the Doctrine. We
also aim to help
those who are
suffering,
incarnated and
disincarnated
spirits.
O Consolador:
Can you please
tell us about
your role in
terms of
disclosing
Spiritism?
I do not write
as a spiritist
writer, but I
create comment
pieces. These
are texts and
articles
divulged
electronically.
I started to
become a speaker
when the
activities at
GEAK started. It
took a lot of
effort from our
side, since we
have done talks
in our centre
and in other
institutions. I
believe when you
embrace any
activity, your
way of seeing
the world
changes since
you have more
responsibility
towards those
around you. This
increases our
conscious
awareness and
makes us become
more reflective
individuals in
regards to our
choices and
actions. This
also leads us to
a more balanced
living, trying
to be more
patient,
indulgent,
loving and kind
to other
individuals.
O Consolador:
What are biggest
challenges and
achievements in
the spiritist
movement within
your State?
The biggest
challenges are
the lack of
knowledge of the
Spiritist
Doctrine. This
is a result of
lack of in-depth
study of the
Spiritism. The
biggest
objective of the
Doctrine is for
us to modify
ourselves
through
knowledge, and
this is the
biggest obstacle
to be faced, by
each person. It
is easy to
estate being
spiritist, but
hard to be a
conscious
spiritist! There
are lots of
happy moments,
my friend. The
first one is to
know we are not
alone. Life goes
on, and there is
no eternal
suffering since
our Lord helps
at all times
throughout our
life. Another
happy moment is
to be able to
receive letters,
advices, and
consolations
from our beloved
friends from the
spiritual world.
Spiritism can
transform people
and the world
around us.
Another
certainty is
that love
destroys all
barriers,
conquests all
creatures. The
good example is
worth more than
thousands of
words, which is
a tool to reach
our own inner
reformation.
O Consolador: Is
the spiritist
public in Recife
integrated and
conscious about
the need to
study and
disclose
Spiritism?
As I have
mentioned, lack
of study is a
barrier to be
transposed. The
public meetings
always have a
bigger audience
in comparison
with the
spiritist study
groups in the
centres. If we
do not
comprehend the
doctrine, this
will lead us to
mistakes in
interpreting the
spiritist
teachings. If a
centre does not
have in-depth
studies, it
could lead to
pride and
vanity. As
consequence we
can have an
unsteady centre,
with teachings
that are outside
the Spiritist
teachings.
O Consolador:
How have you
seen
controversial
themes discussed
by society? What
about those
involving the
spiritist
movement?
The Spiritist
Doctrine is the
only
philosophical
and religion
stream that
unfolds doubts
through
instruction. It
shows the
individual he
receives what he
gets; we will
collect good
things if we act
responsibly. If
not, we will
harvest pain and
suffering.
Controversial
themes such as
abortion,
clones, drug
use, death
penalty and many
others come
through due to
lack of
knowledge or
interest in
spiritual means.
We all have the
right to talk as
we wish. We have
the duty to
respect
everyone’s
freedom to
speak, even if
we don’t agree
with it.
When we talk in
the name of the
Spiritist
Doctrine, we
need to be loyal
to its doctrine
principles. In
all areas of
life, study,
debate and
researches
always add
something, but
we need to be
careful with
vague
information,
without any
reference. These
types of
discussion lead
to plots,
disagreements
and
disaffection.
We, as sincere
spiritists, need
to avoid these
conversations.
We need to act
in society as a
whole, giving a
good example.
O Consolador:
How did the idea
of a web site
for the
institution come
along?
This idea came
in 2005 with the
goal to disclose
Spiritism. It is
very dynamic. We
try to answer
all questions
received and
always send
messages of
encouragement
related to the
Spiritist
Doctrine. Please
note the site
address:
www.luzdoespiritismo.com
O Consolador:
Are there any
radio or TV
station in
Recife
disclosing
Spiritism? What
about book
clubs? Are there
any in the city?
Yes, there are.
We have several
institutions
whose goal is
disclosing
Spiritist
through book
clubs. The
Spiritist
Federation of
Pernambuco has a
program called
“What is
Spiritism” as
well.
O Consolador:
How do you see
the spiritist
idea progressing
within the
Brazilian
society?
I believe
spiritist ideas
have been
disseminate in a
constant and
sustainable way
throughout our
country. This is
mainly due to
the robust and
logic behind its
teachings, the
examples given
by real
spiritists, the
incarnation of
spirits who are
aware of its
principles and
the help the
Spiritist
knowledge
provides around
life
questionings. I
have noticed a
lot of people
are spiritists
without knowing
the spiritist
doctrine. We see
spiritist ideas
introduced in
soap operas and
movies, the
publication of
books and
spiritist talks.
This brings a
lot of people to
the Doctrine who
is curious about
it. in the
future it will
bring new
spiritist who
will live the
teachings
brought by the
Spiritual world,
and change the
planet to better
and just place.
O Consolador:
Can you please
give us your
final words?
Jesus blesses us
all. United by
the feeling of
friendship and
brotherhood,
let’s minimize
the material
frontiers that
are separating
us from one
another. Let’s
unite our
spiritual links
connecting
through the
technological
tools available
to us by God.
Let’s remember
the saying from
The Spirit of
Truth:
“Spiritists!
Love one
another, that is
the first
precept; educate
yourselves is
the second.
Within
Christianity you
will find all
the truths. The
errors in which
Man has become
enrooted are all
of human
origin.”
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