O Consolador:
Where do you
currently live?
I live in a
small village
called Hollola,
which is located
around 100 km
far from
Finland’s
capital
Helsinki.
O Consolador:
Why did you move
to this place?
I moved there
because of work.
O Consolador:
What is your
professional
background?
I am a mechanic
engineer.
O Consolador:
What is your
current task in
the Spiritist
movement?
I translate
spiritist
publications and
articles to
Finnish, helping
to disseminate
the Spiritist
Doctrine in my
country.
O Consolador:
When did you
have the first
contact with
Spiritism?
When I visited a
Spiritist Centre
in 2004.
O Consolador:
Was there any
particular fact
or circumstance
that has
promoted this
contact?
I used to work
for a
multinational
company during
the 8 years that
I lived in
Brazil. I have
heard a few
times about
people that had
contact with
spirits. I also
had the
opportunity to
witness that.
This is very
peculiar for a
Finnish
engineer, I
would promptly
classify the
event as a joke
or a hoax if I
have not
personally
testified the
authencity of
the phenomenon.
At that time my
wife and I were
dating. When we
talked about it,
she mentioned
that this
subject was
seriously
studied by
several
spiritist
centres.
My mother in law
suggested me to
visit a
spiritist centre
and attend to a
lecture. And so,
with a bit of
curiosity , I
went to a
spiritist centre
for the first
time. I remember
that I could not
understand much,
due to my
Portuguese
knowledge, but
it didn’t matter
because my wife
and her mother
would provide me
with
explanations
whenevear
needed.
O Consolador:
How did your
family reacted?
Actually, my
family – who is
Finnish- do not
understand what
Spiritism is. I
am translating
texts that
include
religious and
philosophical
aspects for
them.
O Consolador:
Amongst the
three Spiritist
aspects –
science,
philosofy,
religion – which
one do you like
the most?
I believed in
God before I was
introduced to
the Spiritism. I
am sure I was
helped by an
inexplicable
force in some
circunstances.
However I acted
as an atheist as
I didn’t believe
in the church
precepts. Today
I believe and I
am grateful to
God, Jesus and
to my mentors.
Therefore, the
Spiritism
changed my soul.
The philosofy
aspect is very
importat because
it provides a
logic
explaination of
where we came
from, what we
are and what we
will be. The
scientific part
explains things
that were
previously
classified as
abnormal. All
three aspects
are part of a
puzzle, when put
together they
fit perfectlly
resulting in an
enlightened
image. I think
that the
religious aspect
plays the
biggest role, as
it speaks to the
heart. The
philosofical
part comes
second, followed
by the
scientific
aspect. I think
that this
enlightened
image would not
be formed if one
part was
missing.
O Consolador:
Amongst the
Spiritist books
that you read,
which ones would
you consider
essential for
begginners?
I recommend the
following mix of
short and
enlightening
readings: The
Spirit’s Book
introduction,
The Gospel
According to the
Spiritism - part
II, Kardec’s
biography by
Anna Blackwell.
After reading
these parts I
would suggest
two books: The
Spirit’s Book
(for eventual
reading) and
another
Spiritist book,
easier to read.
The second book
will depend on
the interests of
each
individual.
O Consolador:
Can you mention
an unforgettable
Spiritist book?
The Spirit’s
Book. It was not
easy to study at
the beggining
but today I
understand it a
bit better than
before. This
book gives me
strength to face
daily
challenges, it
helps me keeping
my self
control, to
clarify my
mistakes and
motivates me to
choose the best
thoughts and
attitudes.
O Consolador: If
you were going
to spend some
years in a
remote place,
with restricted
access to the
Spiritist
movement, which
books would you
take?
The Spirit’s
Book, The Gospel
According to
Spiritism and
Paulo e Estêvão.
O Consolador:
Among the
doctrinal
differences
existent in the
spiritual
movement, one
refers to what
we call laic
spiritism. What
is your view on
this subject?
I am not
familiar with
laic spiritism
or aware of any
doctrinal
differences. The
Spiritist
Doctrine is very
clear and its
main questions
are already
aligned and
explained in the
chapter II of
The Gospel
According to the
Spiritism. I
think we should
not spare time
discussing about
doctrinal
nuances. Instead
we should speak
less and do more
charitable work.
This can retard
the development
of the spiritist
movement and was
one of Kardec’s
major concerns.
If we notice
something
deviating from
the Spiritist
principles, of
course we should
clarify the
matter. However
we must be very
careful and
respect everyone
involved. Before
we touch this
topic, it is
important to
stop for a
moment and
listen to our
heart while we
ask the
following
questions: What
I am talking
about this? What
is the reason?
Is my comment
useful,
necessary and
constructive? Is
my opinion based
on a Kardec’s
principles?
Would I like if
someone said the
same thing to
me?
If we have
interest in a
doctrinal
nuance, we
should either
study alone or
within a group,
always following
Kardec’s
principles.
O Consolador: In
with regards to
the healing
practice offered
by some
Spiritist
centres, in your
opinion, what is
the best way to
deliver it?
I think that the
simplicity, pure
thoughts and the
sincere desire
to help is what
makes the
healing practice
so effective. In
Finland, where I
live, there are
no Spiritist
Centres.
O Consolador:
What is your
view on
abortion? How is
this matter
dealt with in
Finland?
The legislation,
demonstrations
and advertising
have a limited
effect. I think
it is important
to use all
communication
channels to
disseminate the
spiritist
knowledge. A
person who
comprehends the
spiritist
doctrine in
depth does not
consider
abortion as an
option. In
Finland abortion
is legal and
there are around
10.000 cases per
year. Naturally
the church is
against it
however many
people do not
follow what is
preached by
church.
There is a
Pro-Life
Association in
Finland that
demonstrates
through pictures
how abortion is
performed. This
association
publishes photos
on the internet
and also display
them in public
events. I
believe these
pictures have
made some people
re-think their
decision and
therefore I
support it,
although it can
be shocking. To
spread out the
Spiritist
Doctrine and
promote public
awareness will
be more
effective. This
is how I want to
contribute.
O Consolador: Do
you have any
contact with the
Brazilian
Spiritist
movement? Do you
consider it to
be active or it
could improve
the spiritist
doctrine
dissemination?
I have a great
deal of respect
for the
Brazilian
Spiritist
movement. The
Spiritism
dissemination
has been done
broadly and
professionally
through books,
magazines,
radio, TV and
internet. The
number of
spiritist
centres and the
amount of
charity work
done have been
increasing. The
resources are
limited but the
faith is
abundant.
Further than the
work done in
Brazil, the
Brazilian
Spiritist
movement plays a
very important
role for the
spiritism
dissemination in
other countries.
The
International
Spiritist
Council is a
result of this
work and it is
very important
for the
spiritist
doctrine
dissemination
worldwide.
O Consolador:
How is the
spiritist
movement
developing in
Finland?
The Spiritist
movement in
Finland is still
very
restricted. We
still do not
have public
activities, we
are at the very
beggining and
intend to revert
this situation
by raising
public
awareness. In
order to
disseminate the
doctrine it is
essential to
know the culture
and understand
how people
think. Finnish
people like to
study, analize
and make up
their own minds
about things.
They do not
tolerate when
people try to
convince them.
If we do not
choose the right
approach, they
can get this
impression. In
my point of view
Finnish people
are more
rational than
emotional. They
support logic
and rational
ideas. This is a
very positive
argument which
should be used
when spreading
out the
spiritist
doctrine in
Finland. Taking
this into
consideration,
we have created
a website in
Finnish -
http://www.spiritismi.fi/.
We want Finnish
people to have
access to the
information and
analyze them,
without thinking
that someone is
pushing them.
The website has
parts of
Kardec’s books
translated to
Finnish. We
normaly have
more than 20
people accessing
the website
daily. Thus,
every day we
have Finnish
people learning
about tthe
Spiritist
Doctrine. We
have announced
in the website
that the
Spirit’s Book
will be launched
in Finnish soon.
The
International
Spiritist
Council will
sell the book
via
www.amazon.com,
therefore Finish
people can buy
it online and it
will be
delivered to
their homes. A
Brazilian
volunteer that
lives in Finland
is sending
weekly
newsletters
about Spiritist
books to some
friends. This is
very practical
and useful,
mainly amongst
friends.
I have faith
that the future
holds several
surprises that
will help us to
spread out the
Spiritist
Doctrine. Each
step has to be
taken carefully,
praying and
believing that
if we do our
best God will,
in his divine
mercy, help us
too.
O Consolador:
Our world
already started
the regeneration
process, as we
know. How long
do you think
that it will
take for the
Earth to develop
into a fully
regenerated
planet where,
according to
Saint Agostinho,
only love will
prevail?
I hope it
happens as soon
as possible.
However it
depends on each
individual. The
more we work,
the soonest this
day will come.
O Consolador:
Given the
problems that
our society is
facing, what
people
responsible for
the Spiritist
movement
worldwide should
consider as top
priority?
I believe we
should pay more
attention to the
activities and
publications
directed to
children and
youngsters.
O Consolador: In
order to
finalise this
interview we
would like to
ask: how
important is the
Spiritist
Doctrine to your
life?
Before knowing
the Spiritist
Doctrine I made
big mistakes.
The Spiritism
revealed God to
me and that He
always wants the
best for us,
even when we
fail. Through
Spiritism I was
able to find
myself as well
as to improve.
My wife is a
Spiritist and I
believe that was
not by
coincidence that
she took me to a
Spiritist
centre. My wife
and I are
blessed to have
the Spiritist
Doctrine in our
lives and we
always try to do
our best.
Sometimes we
stumble and for
sure it will
happen many
times, but we
always stand up
and I believe
that with God’s
help we always
will. |