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Paulo Afonso
Eberhardt
(photo), a
professional
economist, has
carried out
extensive work
at the Spiritist
Centre Dias da
Cruz, in the
southern city of
Passo Fundo. He
spoke to O
Consolador about
his work, which
focuses mainly
on raising
awareness to the
importance of
spiritist
books.
O Consolador:
How did you
become a
spiritist?
When I was
25-years-old, I
began noticing
the presence of
sprits around me
in several
manners – by
hearing voices,
by seeing
spirits during
my sleep and
while awake and
through
premonitions,
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which very
often were
proved to be
right. I
knew nothing
about spiritism, but I
was taken to a
spiritist centre
by a friend and
never really
left. |
O Consolador:
What are your
main duties at
your spiritist
centre?
I began working
at the spiritist
centre in 1986.
I’m now its
director and
contribute also
as a public
speaker, in the
library, in the
systematised
studies of The
Mediums Book and
the public
relations
sector, through
our website:
www.diasdacruz.org.br.
O Consolador:
How did you
begin your
involvement in
the
dissemination of
the Spiritist
literature,
through book
fairs and book
shops? Why do
you think
spiritist books
are of such
importance?
For over 20
years, we had a
small book
stall, but that
wasn’t enough.
So in 2002 we
opened the
Spiritist
Bookshop
Antonina Xavier
(LEAX). It has
now, after being
expanded twice,
more than 1,700
titles,
including books,
CDs and DVDs. We
have a modern,
computerised
selling system.
As for the
relevance of
spiritist books,
I’d like to say
that the
spiritual world
provides us
regularly with
books to help us
develop both
morally and
intellectually.
Good spiritist
books are among
the best tools
for the
dissemination of
Spiritism,
especially among
our supporters.
The book is a
tool that can be
used by friends,
family and work
colleagues to
spread the
Doctrine. We
could say that
while a number
of people go to
spiritist
centres in a
particular day,
thousands of
others are
reading their
books at home.
O Consolador: Is
there a special
moment or
anecdote you’d
like to share
with us?
Our work in the
bookshop led to
an invitation to
visit Angola –
mainly the
capital, Luanda
– in 2008. We
were invited to
help set up
spiritist
bookshops in
Luanda’s private
universities. It
was an amazing
experience. I’m
passionate about
books and my the
training I had
received at
Fundacao Getulio
Vargas (Note:
one of the most
prestigious
research
institutions in
Brazil) had
been of great
importance in
the setting up
of our bookshop.
Another special
moment was
taking part in
the Passo Fundo
Book Fair (in
the state of Rio
Grande do Sul),
where we sold
more than 1,100
books. We also
distributed more
than 300 volumes
of the Gospel
According to
Spiritism in a
cunning way; we
simply left the
books on the
benches of the
main square with
a little note:
“this book is
yours”. Most of
those who picked
up the books
walked away
browsing and
reading.
O Consolador:
Tell us a bit
more about your
day-to-day work
at your
bookshop.
There’s great
demand for
spiritist books.
We open the
bookshop during
our activities,
but the bell
rings
constantly, with
people
interested in
buying books.
Those who come
in for the first
time are often
bewildered by
the number of
titles
available. We
have plans to
extend our
opening hours
very soon, to
0900 to 2100. We
also get many
orders from
spiritists who
live in nearby
towns and
cities. Most of
the demand is
for what we call
the basic works
of Allan Kardec.
We have been
buying more
books every
week, just to
keep our stocks
stable. We’ll
also been
introducing
e-commerce very
shortly, that is
to say, internet
shopping. That’s
the future,
there’s no
avoiding. And it
provides access
to spiritist
books to those
who live in our
region in towns
where there are
no specialised
bookshops.
O Consolador:
Are spiritist
books expensive?
Are the prices
accessible for
most people?
I believe the
prices for the
basic works of
Kardec are fair,
not too bad
really, if you
consider that
the most
expensive
editions cost 12
reais (Note:
equivalent to
£4.5 or US$6.5).
We try to
buy in bulk so
we can get
better prices.
In our bookshop,
you can get the
basic works for
a little as 2.50
reais (£ 0.80
or US$1.10).
Most of the new
titles cost 30
reais (£11 or
£16). The
novels cost
more, but we’re
not really
worried about
that. If you
compare those
prices to those
of conventional
books in other
bookshops, I
would say that
spiritist books
are in fact a
bit expensive,
but one must
bear in mind
that most of the
money goes for
charity and that
should be taken
into account.
O Consolador:
From your
experience with
the public in
the bookshop and
book fairs, what
are most people
looking for?
What are their
main concerns
and the themes
they’re really
worried about?
In book fairs,
many people
bring their own
shop list, but a
great deal of
transactions
take place just
by impulse.
Someone looks at
the cover of a
book, at the
author and ends
up buying. In
other cases,
you’re right,
there are
specific
concerns. We
have a whole
range of
concerns: the
physical
suffering caused
by diseases,
emotional
problems, with
difficult
relations at
home or at work.
Many people have
problems with
difficult
children, there
are cases of
depression, of
guilt. What
they’re looking
for in the
spiritist book
is some insight,
is understanding
their problems,
a way out,
spiritual
comfort. At book
events, the
demand is more
for new titles,
good prices,
sales. Some come
looking for
titles
recommended by
friends,
self-help books.
At our spiritist
centre, people
tend to come
with more
specific demands
and needs,
looking for
comfort to
particular
problems. The
titles we
recommend the
most are The
Gospel According
to Spiritism and
The Spirits
Book.
O Consolador:
What is the role
spiritist
bookshops can
play in
assisting those
who come looking
for
clarification
and comfort?
It should sell
reliable, good
quality books,
be it written by
mediums or not.
The books
available should
offer comfort
and
clarification
and – why not? –
come at an
accessible
price. We
prioritise the
basic works of
Kardec. We also
have a library
where some of
the same titles
can be borrowed
free of charge.
We should make a
clear
distinction
between the
assistance of
those in need
and selling
books.
O Consolador:
What is your
advice to
directors of
spiritist
centres who are
planning to
begin selling
books or to open
a proper
bookshop?
Their first
concern should
be the physical
space available,
as that will
shape the
relationship
with potential
clients. The
best area to set
up a book shop
or selling point
is at the
entrance, by the
door of the
spiritist
centre. Impulse
buy accounts for
a good deal of
sales (-- books
must be seen;
what’s not seen
is often
forgotten).
Also, the bigger
and brighter the
area, the
biggest the
sales will be.
One should buy
or build
specific
furniture,
shelves, to
display the
books. You can
improvise and
have a table top
put on a metal
or wooden base
and display your
books there.
People should
visit other
spiritist
bookshops to
check on the
layout and
details. You’ll
need an
accountant, if
you decide to go
ahead an open a
bookshop. Books
are not taxed
(no VAT) in
Brazil, but CDs
and DVDs will be
taxed. It’s also
important to get
in touch with
booksellers and
check the lists
of books
available. Book
distributors
have more than
7,000 titles
available, but
you must be
careful. There
are many bad
titles, many
books that
contradict the
principles of
the Doctrine.
Also don’t buy
too much, as
books get old,
dirty, with
yellow pages,
which really
presents very
badly.
Conventional
bookshops
normally have
three units of
every title
available. In a
smaller book
shop, you should
have only 1 or 2
of each. The
exception should
be made for the
basic works of
Kardec and very
popular titles,
such as Nosso
Lar. I believe
all spiritist
centres should
have books
available both
for sale and for
loan. We can’t
accept the
argument that
this or that
centre is too
small, that
there’s not
enough staff.
The whole
dynamics of a
spiritist centre
lies in the
hands of its
directors.
O Consolador:
How does your
library scheme
work?
We have about
2,500 titles
available. The
opening hours
are the same as
for the
bookshop, and
our system is
all
computerised. To
join, you just
need to produce
some ID and
proof of
residence. It’s
all free of
charge. You can
get a book for
up to 21 days,
and the loan can
be renewed once.
If the book your
book is overdue,
you pay a small
fine, 1 real per
week. But
there’s no
charge for the
first three
days. Children
can also join.
We lend about
5,000 books a
year – most of
them, spiritist
novels, which is
not really what
we’d like to
happen. I can
stress enough
the importance
of every
spiritist centre
having their own
book-loan
scheme. Some 200
books go missing
every year, but
we make up for
that with the
book donations
we get. And the
money from
overdue fines
also helps us
buying new books
or repairing old
ones.
O Consolador:
How do you
select the books
for your
bookshop and the
book-loan
scheme? How
important is it
that the books
follow the
principles of
the spiritist
doctrine?
Directors in
spiritist
centres must
assess very
carefully the
books available,
not only for
their stylistic
merits, but
making sure they
follow the
doctrine. Many
publishing
houses see
spiritism as a
niche, as an
opportunity for
profit-making.
They don’t
really care if
the books
published are
faithful to the
doctrine. That’s
why we need to
be careful when
buying and
selling. We
maintain contact
with spiritist
federations in
the states, even
though we don’t
always agree
with their
choices. We also
avoid books
written by
mediums who
charge for their
work, even if
there’s nothing
wrong with the
content. When we
suspect about
any part of the
book, its
content, any
deviations from
the principles
of spiritism, we
don’t buy or
sell. We use the
same criteria
for the
book-loan
scheme.
O Consolador:
What are your
views on the
recent boom in
the number of
spiritist
titles? You have
long experience
in the area, do
you think the
books available
are all
relevant?
We’ve indeed
seen in recent
years a new wave
of spiritist
books launched.
Those who were
used to the
trustworthy
medium
capacities of
Chico Xavier,
Divaldo Franco
and Raul
Teixeira can
struggle now, as
there’s so much
choice. But they
need to
understand that
there’s also
very good stuff
among the new
books being
published. Other
titles, we could
describe as real
spiritual
rubbish. I’m not
even sure they
have really been
dictated by
spirits. There
are books with
serious
theoretical
distortions.
There are badly
written books,
with the wrong
grammar,
repetition of
words, poor
syntax. That
could be
happening for a
serious of
reasons, from
limitations in
the mediunic
process to a
rush to publish,
ignoring the
vital process of
analysis and
serious
revision.
O Consolador: Is
there still
demand for the
true classics by
spiritist
authors, such as
Leon Denis,
Gabriel Delanne
and others?
They have
produced the
most beautiful
books, which
have helped so
much in the
understanding of
spiritism, its
history, how it
all began. The
interest in
those works
depend greatly
on the work done
by public
speakers and
also by those
who teach the
principles of
spiritism in
spiritist
centres and
study groups.
When the group’s
leader reads a
particular book,
there’s natural
interest from
the other
members. At the
other end, those
who sell should
make sure they
display such
books in the
best, most
visible shelves.
Many people
don’t even know
about the
existence of
those classics.
In sum, the
spiritist
movement can
play an
important part,
by publicising
the books of
those authors in
their systematic
studies of the
doctrine, in
public lectures,
in bookshops. As
I said before,
what’s not
before the eye
tends to be
forgotten. And
that is valid to
the classic
authors too.
O Consolador:
Your final
comments,
please.
Once, a spirit
told during a
meeting:
“Spiritist books
are the bread,
the nourishment
that supports
the soul in its
day-to-day
battles”. That
is so true. On
the other hand,
some say the
book has its
days counted. Or
rather, that the
paper book will
be replaced by
the e-book, or
electronic book.
If that happens,
it won’t be
soon. And
anyway, we’ll
have to accept
those changes is
they do come.
The Amazon’s
Kindle (e-book
reader) has
already more
than 100,000
titles
available. Who
knows one day we
will no longer
open a book, but
switch it on.
But the pleasure
of looking
forward to
having a
particular book,
of then holding
it, let the
imagination
travel in its
stories, that’s
such a great
pleasure.
Reading,
rereading,
scribbling notes
is a big
pleasure and
satisfaction to
the soul.
There’s a
popular saying
which goes: “He
who owns a book,
owns a
treasure”. So
make sure you
have several
treasures with
you, carry them
around and you
will see that
the
opportunities
and time for
reading will
come up every
now and again –
on the queue at
the bank, as you
wait at the
doctor’s
practice, on the
bus. In life,
there are those
who write. And,
at the same
time, there are
thousands of
people eagerly
waiting to read
what they write.
Be one of them.