Sandra Borba:
“Spiritist
institutions
need
to become an
environment
focused on
education, due
to the
pedagogical
nature
of the Doctrine”
Sandra Maria
Borba Pereira
(picture) is
the President of
the Spiritist
Federation of
Rio Grande do
Norte State
(FERN). She is
our interviewee
of the week and
presents
interesting
answers to the
current
challenges we
face, especially
on the
pedagogical
teachings of
Spiritism
through our
institutions.
Sandra also
presents us with
a profile of Rio
Grande do Norte
and her
experiences in
Brazil, with
motivational and
consistent
answers.
O Consolador:
Can you please
give us an idea
of the Spiritist
Movement within
Rio Grande do
Norte, Brazil?
How many cities and spiritist
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institutions
exist there?
The movement in
Rio Grande do
Norte is
vibrant.
Spiritism came
here a long time
ago since we
already had a
newspaper
circulating in
1875 called
O ESPÍRITA
(The Spiritist).
The
first
institutions
suffered from
prejudice and
persecutions.
The oldest one
we have is the
Spiritist
Federation
(FERN) which
will complete 83
years in this
coming April. We
have 130
centres,
distributed
within 35 cities
across the
State. We have a
lot of work
ahead of us.
We have 14 radio
and 3 TV
programmes in
our State. We
also host State
conferences,
congresses,
seminars, talks,
charity work
with the elderly
people and
children at
schools and
nurseries. In
addition, we
also work with
prisoners among
all activities
we have.
O Consolador:
What is the most
remarkable
experience you
had as a
President for
FERN?
I must say I
feel honoured to
be the President
of FERN since
April 2003. I am
proud to state
how dedicated
the spiritist
workers are.
Even though
facing prejudice
in the
countryside,
they work
creatively, with
lack of human or
financial
resources. These
ideas we are all
trying very hard
to comprehend
and practice in
our State. The
Federation
always reinforce
the need of
inner
reformation, and
of dealing with
the human
nature. This
represents a
learning process
with the goal of
inner
development. The
most remarkable
experience,
therefore, has
been this
incredible
network of
people I met
through FERN,
and the
participation in
the improvement
of society.
O Consolador:
Looking at the
difficulty we
are faced when
dealing with
children and
youth, can you
please tell us
your opinion
about the
spiritist
movement in
Brazil?
I don’t believe
spiritist
education for
children and
youth has been
an easy job.
I remember from
the group of
youth I took
part on the
Spiritist
Federation of
Pernambuco, I am
the only one who
still works on
the movement. I
believe we need
to be clear
about all
problems we face
in reality: the
anxiety of
enjoying every
second,
individualism,
ethics, centres
resistant to
changes, absent
families, and/or
parents who are
not concerned
about the moral
education of
their children.
If we add to
all of this a
pedagogical
education that
doesn’t provide
students with
interesting
topics or open
dialogs but
dictating norms.
I believe this
work should be
done
collectively
involving
parents,
teachers and
spiritist
leaders. We
need to identify
our
responsibilities
and be aware of
mistakes made in
the past and
assume our task
to work on the
moral education
of future
generations.
O Consolador: Do
you think we
have been
preparing our
children and
youth for the
future?
From my own
personal
experience, I
believe young
people have more
room than they
used to in the
past, in the
spiritist
movement. We
need to realise
teenagers now
face high
demands for
their
professional
life. A
Bachelors degree
doesn’t have the
same weight as
it used to a few
years ago. This
means young
people have less
time to focus on
the Doctrine and
the movement.
This is one of
the reasons we
need to invest
on teenagers
from the start,
since they are
at a young age.
Let’s always
keep in mind our
goal to educate
our future
generations. I
thank everyone
who said ‘no’ to
me when I was
younger, and
thought me
kindness and
respect.
O Consolador: Do
you believe
modern
technology,
which involves
our children and
youth playing
virtual games
and navigating
on internet;
make the moral
educational
process more
difficult in our
spiritist
centres?
The spiritist
education for
children and
youth has the
strength of the
clear and open
message
Spiritism brings
us all. The
Doctrine
reinforces the
formation of our
integral
personality and
the acquisition
of values. I
believe all
educational
processes,
including at
home and at
school, are
facing
challenges.
These issues are
also seen at the
spiritist
education
department.
There are ways
to come around
these problems
such as:
meaningful
topics to
discuss, a
methodological
approach focused
on day-to-day
issues children
and youth face,
a friendly
environment,
promotion of
dialog among the
family and to
integrate this
department with
the other
activities in
the centre. This
demands a
collective
effort,
pedagogical
formation of the
spiritist
teacher,
planning,
creativity,
flexibility and
openness to
change, respect,
change of
attitude,
compromise with
the project,
etc.
O Consolador: Do
you think the
philosophical,
ethical and
pedagogical
aspect of the
Spiritist
Doctrine could
be seen
throughout
spiritist
centres?
Yes, definetely!
The ethical
aspect is
present
everywhere.
Anyone who gets
away from it, in
or out of the
Spiritist
Movement, might
face
disequilibrium
and,
consequently,
moral and
spiritual
problems. In
Brazil, our
tradition is
very much
focused on
seeing
philosophy as an
‘orientation of
life’ rather
than seeing the
academic aspect
of it. It is no
different within
our movement.
Whenever we can,
we suggest the
inclusion of
philosophical
and pedagogical
themes or
approaches
within the
spiritist
centres. The
Doctrine
provides us with
a clear and
illustrating
language to
approach all
issues regarding
inner
development.
O Consolador:
How can we
motivate
leaders, workers
and even parents
and teachers to
pay attention to
such an
expressive part
of Spiritism?
We believe those
focus on the
study of all
aspects of
Spiritism can
collaborate to
disclose the
Doctrine. On the
12th
January we had a
radio programme
from FERN (Estação
da Luz –
Station of Light)
dedicated to
Johann Heinrich
Pestalozzi,
since it was his
remembrance day.
We also had the
opportunity to
record a TV
program at
Christmas about
Education and
Spiritism, which
had great
feedback.
We have been
organising a lot
of events about
the pedagogical
aspect within
Spiritism. I
notice there is
an increasing
interest from
the media,
events, etc. It
is our duty to
approach these
aspects, writing
and publishing
texts to divulge
these ideas. We
need to
stimulate our
colleagues, in
special
teenagers, to
research, study
and discuss more
about it. We
already can see
many magazines
writing about it
such as
REENCARNAÇÃO,
from the
Spiritist
Federation of
Rio Grande do
Sul and REVISTA
PEDAGÓGICA (São
Paulo, Brazil).
O Consolador:
Can you please
tell us about
your experience
as a national
speaker, who can
see the
understanding
and disclosure
of the Spiritist
Doctrine
throughout the
country?
I have had the
opportunity to
speak for
different
audiences,
different age
groups and
cultural levels
throughout the
country.
Therefore, the
common aspect
among all these
groups is the
expectation of
getting a
different
message across
which could be
able to reach
minds and
hearts, and
incentivise hope
and
encouragement. I
can see the need
of a clear open
speech, but at
the same time
reflecting on
basic human
questions.
In order to
divulge
Spiritism in the
best way
possible, we
need to be able
to clarify facts
based on the
Spiritist
Doctrine but add
a clear and soft
language to it,
illustrating
with good real
examples. We
need to
encourage the
audience,
respect those
who differ from
our thoughts and
the spiritist
ideas, console
and clarify.
Plus, use all
the solid
arguments the
Spiritist
Doctrine
provides us
with.
O Consolador:
How did you get
to know
Spiritism?
I had the
opportunity to
be part of two
spiritist
education
centres for
children and
youth. When I
was a child, I
used to go to
Instituto
Espírita Gabriel
Delanne, in
Recife. When I
was a teenager,
I would go to
the Spiritist
Federation of
Pernambucano. I
started to help
teaching within
the department
when I was 15
and two years
later I was
teaching the
doctrine. This
early contact
with the
Doctrine
encouraged me to
read and search
for more
information and
expand my
knowledge about
Spiritism.
O Consolador:
How should we
face polemic
topics within
society?
We believe the
main goal of the
Spiritist
Doctrine is to
clarify and to
console,
including when
talking about
polemic topics.
We need to study
more in order to
present the
spiritist
thinking in a
clear way. This
demands us to
assume
responsibilities
towards
educating
ourselves first,
and overcome
pride, hate and
selfishness. We
need to look for
the causes of
individual and
social problems,
talk and get to
know ways of
minimizing these
issues and
propose
different ideas.
To set up an
example is a
possibility to
contribute for
the Spiritist
Movement within
the society as
well.
O Consolador:
what about the
progress of
spiritist ideas?
How is that seen
through your
professional
experience at
the University?
There is a lot
of prejudice
with the
academic
environment
towards
Spiritism. I
know
achievements
have been done
in other places,
such as within
Pos-Graduation
programmes where
research was
done and managed
to terminate
with taboos and
prejudice. In
the course
Science of
Religion, from
the State
University of
RN, for example,
some theses have
been written
about Spiritism.
The spiritist
ideas are here
and a lot of
colleagues have
been invited to
talk about it at
Universities,
due to their
good attitudes
and examples.
There is still a
lot of work to
be done, and the
correct
disclosure of
the Doctrine
will bring us
good results on
days to come.
O Consolador: Is
there a way to
reach the
spiritist
families and
incentivise them
to study and
compromise with
Spiritism?
Spiritist
institutions
need to become
an environment
focused on
education, due
to the
pedagogical
nature of the
Doctrine. We can
do that through
several
activities
within the
centres, always
disseminating
these teachings
but respecting
everyone’s
opinion using
good sense. We
need to focus on
an important
aspect: the
spiritist centre
is not a place
for workers to
meet but a
school where our
brothers need to
stretch
friendship
relations,
including
outside the
institution.
O Consolador: Is
there anything
else you would
like to add to
this interview?
I would like to
thank for the
opportunity this
interview
offered me to
reflect on my
own experiences
and on what else
I could do for
Spiritism. All
the best things
that happened in
my existence I
own to the
Doctrine. For
more I try to
do, I will not
be able to
reattribute the
values,
knowledge and
experiences it
allowed me to
have. I hope
some of these
ideas can reach
positively other
minds and
hearts, through
the world of
internet which
has been
approximating
those who
vibrate in the
same level.
Thank you!
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