Ivan Franzolim:
“We need to
encourage people
to develop their
intellectual
curiosity and
their wish to
study Spiritism”
The well-known
Spiritist write
makes an
assessment of
the current
stage of the
Spiritist
Movement in
Brazil
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Ivan Franzolim
(photo)
was born in a
Spiritist family
in the largest
Brazilian city,
where he engaged
in the Spiritist
Movement in
1984. He has
degrees in
Journalism and
Marketing. He is
also a Spiritist
writer,
columnist and
public speaker,
and a founding
member of the
Association of
Disseminators of
Spiritism in Sao
Paulo state. In
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this interview
he shares his
thoughts on the
current
challenges faced
by the Spiritist
Movement in
Brazil, where
there are
opposing and
often
conflicting
views on a
number of
issues.
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What has led to
the development
of these
conflicting
groups within
the Brazilian
Spiritist
Movement and
what can be done
to tackle the
problem?
I believe that
the existence of
different
approaches to
the Teachings
codified by
Allan Kardec is
positive,
provided those
views are based
on study and
research. The
problem seems to
stem from rushed
and personalised
interpretation
of the Teachings
by people within
the Movement and
by the Spirits
who influence
the mediums. The
answer to that
is in careful
and thorough
study of
Spiritism and in
opening those
schools of
thought to
public debate.
What role can
the leaders in
the Spiritist
Movement and
public speakers
play to deal
with that issue?
They should
encourage people
to develop their
intellectual
curiosity and
their wish to
study Spiritism.
But they must be
encourage to
reason and
challenge,
avoiding,
obviously, the
excesses of
those who end up
getting closer
to fanaticism.
We need to
encourage the
development of
study groups and
courses that
stimulate debate
and logical
thinking, based
on serious
research. It is
important also
to review books
and publications
and encourage
their
circulation.
The publication
of Spiritist
books has
increased
sharply in
Brazil in recent
years. But the
content of many
books has been
questioned and
considered
unreliable from
a Spiritist
perspective.
What is the best
way of dealing
with that?
Some Spiritists
defend the idea
of banning the
sale of such
books in
Spiritist
Centres and
organisations. I
do not agree
with that. That
would only make
people
susceptible to
being
manipulated or
marginalised. We
must take into
account the fact
that any
proposal or
publication
provides an
opportunity for
learning. I
think Spiritist
organisations
must provide
better and
clearer
information to
those who attend
their events.
Some 15,000
Spirit Centres
hold meetings
across Brazil
every day. Most
people get to
know Spiritism
through those
Centres. How can
you help them
fulfil their
role in help
disseminate
Spiritism as it
should be done?
Every
organisation is
influenced by
the way of
thinking of
their leaders,
who pass on
their views to
other members.
They will one
day become the
new leaders and
probably repeat
the same ideas.
It is a vicious
circle, which is
difficult to
change. To break
that cycle, we
must encourage
open dialogue
and the freedom
of thought
inside every
organisation, as
well as the
practice of
questioning
prevailing ideas
and practices.
There is a
growing number
of people active
on Spiritist
websites and the
social networks.
What are your
views on that?
The technology
has enabled
people to
express their
opinions to a
wider public.
That is a very
positive
development and
we should make
the best use of
that. One idea
is that
Spiritist
Centres
encourage their
members to
publish articles
on their views.
Those articles
should be made
available to
others.
Which
initiatives
should Spiritist
Centres
encourage or
which ones
should be
avoided?
I have seen many
good Spiritist
Centre websites,
not only with
practical and
useful
information
about their
activities, but
also with
valuable
historical
articles and
books and
articles for
download. They
disseminate
their campaigns
and publish
interesting
links. But they
should avoid
requests for
prayers, the
publication of
names of people
in trouble and
initiatives such
as virtual
healing.
Many Spiritist
Centres in
Brazil have been
taking on a
sectarian
approach,
labelling any
dissenting view
as wrong. They
produce
“Spiritist”
songs, plays and
films and expect
them to be
appreciated for
their quality,
rather than
their fidelity
to the Spiritist
Teachings. What
is your
assessment of
that problem and
what should be
done to address
it?
This is a very
worrying
pattern, as it
disseminates
ideas that are
not backed up by
the Spiritist
Teachings. We
must take into
account that
Spiritist was
not given to us
in full. We
continue to be
given further
information. We
cannot disregard
any field of
science or
philosophy in
the search for
the truth. That
was told to
Kardec by the
Spiritual
Benefactors. But
that does not
mean that we
must accept any
new idea or
development as
true. We must
look at them and
study them,
however. And it
is very
important that
all the people
with a role of
leadership in
Spiritist Groups
are made aware
of that
situation. We
must try to
contact them and
communicate with
them through all
the possible
means, including
books, emails
and the social
networks.